Killing Women

The estimable and devout Catholic Biltrix has a post up discussing abortion. It’s worth a look.  I replied there:

As a lifelong non-theist, I don’t have the “moment of conception” notion with regard to the beginning of life. For me, life is continuous for the past roughly 4 billion years, and that moment business is complicated because it can be tinkered with or even triggered artificially.

But death is not continuous. And at some point, a few weeks after conception, a human fetus has an impulse-sensing brain and a beating heart. Since we use brain death as an end-of-life measure, it seems reasonable to me to argue for brain-birth/formation/first signals as a beginning-of-life measure.

Thus, I am on your side when it comes to late-term abortions; these are indeed killing humans.

You voiced a rhetorical question: “How many women were killed by botched abortion procedures last year?” But there’s another aspect to this question, since about half of the <i>successful</i> abortions kill women, too. They’re just younger than the others.

I don’t think this should be decided at the federal level, as we don’t in general decide murder and self-defense at that level. But states can and should make these decisions, and in my state I would vote against late-term abortions, with “late” being defined as post-brain-formation.

(After my comment, another commenter put up a link to a non-theist who does argue that life begins at the moment of conception. Here is that link.)

===|==============/ Keith DeHavelle

  • Citizen Tom

    You have a logical position on the matter. If the Bible did not indicate abortion is wrong from conception, I would probably be willing to concede the point.

    I researched what the Bible has to say about abortion a little over a year ago. http://citizentom.com/2012/11/24/what-does-the-bible-say-about-abortion-part-1/ Since you quite knowledgeable of the Bible, you may find it interesting.

    Here are couple of my favorite verses on the subject.

    This one suggests we should not presume to know too much.

    Ecclesiastes 11:5 Good News Translation (GNT)

    God made everything, and you can no more understand what he does than
    you understand how new life begins in the womb of a pregnant woman.

    This one acknowledges God as our creator.

    Psalm 139:13-15 Good News Translation (GNT)

    13 You created every part of me;
    you put me together in my mother’s womb.
    14 I praise you because you are to be feared;
    all you do is strange and wonderful.
    I know it with all my heart.
    15 When my bones were being formed,
    carefully put together in my mother’s womb,
    when I was growing there in secret,
    you knew that I was there—